Commercial Dishwashers

[LongLiveLagers]

Hey all,

I'm a newbie when it comes to "beer clean" as an industry term. At our brewpub we use specific cleaning chemicals in the hand washer, but have had problems in the commercial glass cleaner. Our manufacturer states that no powdered cleaners can be used in our glass cleaner. I'm having a hard time convincing the staff to use no soap/only high temps. They still use some Palmolive and as a result, no head retention.

Is there a liquid "beer clean" product you suggest? Should I force them to use no soap? What do you use?

Kevin Davey:confused:

[beerking1]

At home I use "Stem Shine" on my own beer clean glasses. It comes in both liquid and powder. I use the liquid for a few glasses to hand wash, and when I have a bunch to wash, say after a party, I use the powder in my home dishwasher.
You can get it retail at Wine Enthusiast, but I am notsure where to look wholesale:
http://www.wineenthusiast.com/E/results.asp?Ntt=stem+shine&N=0&Ntk=Product&Nty=1&Ntx=mode%2Bmatchallpartial&sl=1

[LongLiveLagers]

The wine cleaner I can only imagine does not consider head retention and therefor, may have a rinse-aid. It obviously works well?

Is there a beer-specific, liquid cleaner out there?

Does anyone else use only hot water to clean glasses?

What do you put in your dishwasher?

just had a beautiful, brilliantly filtered, pilsner beer, 45 seconds and no foam,
I miss Europe,
Kevin

[william.heinric]

As far as I know, there are two schools of thought on this subject.

First, check the Draught Beer Quality Manual. They have a procedure for glass cleaning which involves finding a good non-foaming cleanser, scrubbing thoroughly and then rinsing even more thoroughly.

Second, Dr. Bamforth has a glass cleaning procedure in one of his books. He recommends a high-foaming cleaner, followed by scrubbing and rinsing.

The main point here - rinsing. Rinse three times, hit it with the sanitizer, air dry, and then rinse with cold water before filling. It works for me.

Good luck,
Bill

[beerking1]

StemShine works for me, no head issues, but as Bill suggests, I rinse thoroughly after cleaning. I don't rinse before filling though.

[NationalChem]

Good Afternoon,

LongLiveLagers we have a liquid automatic detergent that may work for your automatic glass washer, if your interested give me a call.

We have a great selection of options on detergents as well a sanitizer products for glass washing. If anyone is interested in sampling any products we have powders, liquids, tablets, and pouch packets.

All of our products are formulated to product a great looking glass. Shoot me an e-mail at jason@nationalchemicals.com or call me at 800-533-0027. I am more than happy to get you some free product to test out at your location.

Cheers,

Jason Klee
National Account Executive
National Chemicals, Inc.